Ze terribly gorgeous Ming-Zhu Hii

Best Interview Ever: Ming-Zhu Hii and her Big Realisation

Ze terribly gorgeous Ming-Zhu Hii

This is one of my top 5 ever clients, Ming-Zhu Hii. She and I talk for a half hour about her Big Realisations, and life as a soulful online entrepreneur.

I will beg, threaten, bribe and strongarm you to listen to this interview. I will kidnap the cat and offer you the Hope Diamond in order to get you to set aside 30 minutes to listen to this.

Not because it makes me look good, although mightygodfuck does it ever. (Ming-Zhu has the quality of all my most Radiant Clients in that she makes me seem much much smarter than I truly am.)

No, because I’m 19625% confident that you will feel the same way after listening to this as I did (and do, twenty minutes after I finished recording.)



Fired up.

Ready to kick a rhino and rock it the fuck out in your business.

Ready to BLAZE.

Let’s do this!

Audio MP3

Or you can download it for repeated listening. (I certainly shall.)

And if you’re as in love with Ming-Zhu as I am (and seriously, how could you not be?) after this interview, then go find out more about her work at The Public Studio, Superéthique, and The Melbourne Town Players.

Phew. I need a cigarette after that, and I don’t even smoke.

P.S. The Pilot Light still has seats open. Clearly, Ming-Zhu thinks that you should check it out.

Dream logic, marketing and the most unskippablest rule

Startrails over the Autumn foliage
You and I are holding hands and standing on the edge of the universe, watching the stars whoosh by. One of them is made of sponge cake and is spitting tiny crumbs out behind itself as it flies by. A sponge cake meteor.

I turn to you and say I have had a realisation again, and it’s pretty embarassing.

“What is it?” you reply.

So, I think we often create the resources we need for ourselves. Sometimes for our past selves – the thing we wish had existed two years ago – but often we’re creating them for us, as we are right now. Trumpets play the Macarena, off somewhere in the distance.

“And you’re embarassed about that?”

No, I’ve come to accept that. But it becomes a bit odd when I’m relaunching a resource I created nearly a year ago and the process makes me go through the lessons again.

“Dude, you’re the one who talks about spirals all the time.” You move sideways quickly as the floor has become snakes.

Trufax, no denying it. But there’s always this one little voice…

I pull you into a jellybean car and we drive through the stars to a ceramic prison with Delftware bars. Behind the bars a woeful Catherine moans the blues. She says, “How can you teach that when you just did that wrong? You don’t know what you’re talking about, a woah woah woah…”

The me that is holding your hand grins ruefully. She’s wrong, of course. I’m teaching these lessons from a few spirals up. But it’s still embarrassing to realise sometimes that I have to relearn them every damn time.

I present you with a bouquet of bees (non-stingy) and we drive on.

The car breaks down inside a surgical suite and we sit on the anaesthetist’s chair.

You play cat’s cradle and ask, “So, are you going to share this lesson?”

Yes. Absolutely yes. I drag in a chalkboard and begin to write in yellow chalk. So this is my model for marketing:

1. Understand what your Radiant Work is.

2. Identify the people who would treasure that work: your Brilliant Clients.

3. Offer them your Radiant Work.

“Okay, sounds fair enough. Is that the lesson?”

Nope, the lesson is the bit that it’s easiest to forget. I turn over the board and written there is:

4. Make sure that this process is enjoyable enough that you will keep doing it consistently.

“Enjoyable? Why does it have to be enjoyable?”

Suddenly I’m wearing a mortarboard and gown and I enunciate:

Consistency is more important than efficiency.

Consistency is more important than optimal.

Consistency is more important then everything.

There’s a limit to how much we can shove ourselves into doing work we don’t wanna do. The more we eliminate the gottas and focus on the yee-haws, the less shoving we have to do. Thus, more consistency. Science!

“And what happens if you forget rule 4?” you say as you pat a small golden dog.

Well, for me I know what happens is that I start going through the motions. Write the article. Email some people. Have to tweet something. Blegh. I wrestle with a small anthropomorphic pretzel.

“But don’t you like Twitter and writing and all that?”

Not intrinsically. I like doing them in specific ways – like writing articles that came to me at 1am while I was half-asleep, full of totally random imagery.

“So why don’t you do it like that all the time?” You’re wearing a flamingo. It suits you.

It’s easy to forget Rule 4. Sometimes I get too involved in how my heroes and mentors do things. Sometimes I set out to improve a system and accidentally squeeze out the joy. Sometimes I really really want something to happen and all my attention goes there. And every time that happens, I have to relearn the lesson that Rule 4 is not just a nice idea. It’s mandatory for excellent marketing.

“And it’s ironic that you’re relearning that right now.”

Yep, it sure is. Because the reason I got derailed this time is because I deeply want to fill both cohorts for The Pilot Light this month with amazing revolutionary business-builders.

“And why is that ironic?” You say, as the flamingo sues for divorce.

Because The Pilot Light is a framework on how to create a marketing plan that rocks all four rules.


Oh indeed. It’s a wee bit embarrassing. I water the potted plant with Proust’s coffee mug.

“I didn’t notice!”

You’re very lovely. But my last few articles have been a bit flat and lacklustre. And the rest of my marketing has been likewise efficient, but missing its heart. I’m about magnificence, transformation and play, and that needs to permeate every single atom of my marketing work.

I fold a perfect origami crane from maple leaves.

Usually I have no problem with this, but I’m going through the spiral again and I’m at the point where my plan needs to be refocused, refined and revitalised. So, it is both lucky and embarrassing that this is the time when I’m relaunching The Pilot Light.

“Do you think it’s a coincidence?”

No. I’m now wearing a steel-covered sari. I think it’s shitty and irritating and necessary.

“So, uh… why is this story so crowded with random stuff?”

Creative logjam has broken. It tends to make a mess.

You eat a bouncy donut. “And you don’t want to clean it up before the others get here?”

Nope. Remember, I’m about magnificence, transformation and play. This glorious mess belongs. And my Brilliant Clients will get that.

“And sign up for The Pilot Light?”

I would like that very, very much. But I’ve enjoyed writing this article, and that’s a reward of its own.

“Rule 4?”

Rule 4, baybee.

Creative Commons License photo credit: Gadget_Guru

stacy stone

Interview: Stacy Stone and her Big Realisation

This is Stacy, and she’s a marketer.

She knows squoodles of things about the how-tos and the wherefors of launches and marketing campaigns – if you need an extra 10% sales for your widget, then she knows how to make that happen.

But knowing how to get things done isn’t the whole story; Stacy experienced some deeper realisations about marketing during our time working together.

I’ll let her tell you about it. This is the stuff that all the recipes and “Seven Steps To” don’t talk about… but they should.

Audio MP3

(You can download the interview for laters here, if you prefer that. It’s just a hair over 20 minutes long.)

During that interview, we mentioned The Pilot Light a few times, because we both love it deeply.

Stacy loves it because she’s now working on a new business that inspires her, that flows with ease, that’s attracting amazing – high-paying – clients, and that comes from her best self. (Go have a look at Ethical Launch.)

I love The Pilot Light because it creates revolutions in the businesses of amazing people. Over and over, I’ve seen the lightbulb go on as my clients realise, “Not only do I actually understand what everyone’s been blathering about in doing your best work, but I know what mine is and how I can make it happen! Holy shit!”

If you want to join the next revolution and start making money and meaning in your business, then you should most definitely learn more about The Pilot Light.

If you’re ready to blaze, I’m here with a torch and an arsonist’s grin.

Are you coming?

What are the fundamentals of marketing?

Practicing for the circus
Singers spend hours on hours singing their scales.

Basketball players sink a thousand thousand balls from the free throw line.

Pilots run simulations through their entire career.

Drummers play to a metronome.

Nurses practice injections on fake arms.

Football players – every kind – run wind sprints.

They practice the fundamentals.

The well-nigh invisible skills that underlie their creative amazingness – the stuff you must be able to do unconsciously as part of a greater work.

And I’m wondering: does marketing have those fundamentals?

And if so, what are they?

I really want to hear your thoughts on this.

P.S. The Pilot Light, my absolute bestest work, is opening again soon… and you can nab your seats early! Go learn more about how it could transform your business and then fill in the application so we can have a very excited talk about it. 

P.P.S. How adorable does the juggler with the open mouth look? I just want to pinch his cheek.

Creative Commons License photo credit: lrargerich